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katmando

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2007, 05:34:45 AM »
I think we'll let those who read through what has been posted here determine who is correct, knowledgeable, from who is the one attempting to cause trouble, etc., etc.
I tell it like it is and that's offensive to those professing knowledge they don't have.

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2007, 06:52:03 AM »
Or they can go around from board to board, do a post search for the name lorissa, and see who is consistently an asshat everywhere she goes.  I am guilty for starting a less than stellar thread.  It ain't the first time and probably won't be the last.  But you are infamous for your fuck-ups.  You've probably been banned or pressured out of more boards than I've even bothered registering to.  It was hilarious how you wrote, "AKA lorissa."  I guess you thought that would make me ooh and ahh.  Instead I laughed out loud.  And I fail to see what "knowledge" you shared in here.  Other than multiple paragraphs of insults the only thing you said was that there are some sites that ban proxies.  Good-golly-gee, that was illuminating.

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2007, 08:20:31 AM »
But I agree with you that the things I said in this thread are terrible.  I've gone back a few times and reread what I typed and keep asking myself, "Why did you say that?  Why did you word that like that?  What the hell kind of answer was that?"  Case in point:

"So that makes posting anything kind of impossible for me."

I think that was probably the dumbest thing I said and makes me shake my head more than anything else.  I should have said, "I'm not sure what score in Charon translates to level 1 and what score translates to level 2 and I can't post until I find that out."

Or:

"Everything I know about anonymous proxies tells me that levels don't mean anything."

Not true because I happen to know that in some instances a level 5 can spill your IP so I don't know why in the hell I said that.  This more than anything else had to be Anheuser-Busch speaking because it sure as hell wasn't me.

Or:

"The proxy tools I use don't even test for levels because the authors of them knew it was irrelevant."

Bah!  Now I'm trying to speak for other people.  They are mostly irrelevant for hacking/cracking porn but they aren't irrelevant for everything.  But for whatever reason the cracking part was the only thing I was thinking about at that moment.

So yeah, I gave you plenty of ammunition to use against me and I guess I had a bit of a lecture coming.  But your barrage of insults weren't helping anything and they were over the line.  At the time I wasn't sure why in the hell you were so pissed off.  But once you dropped the Lorissa name everything became sparkling clear.  You've always been someone who gets rude as hell with someone the moment you see an opportunity to do so.  I don't doubt that you're smart and know your shit but at some point I think you convinced yourself that being smart and being a smartass are synonymous.  Well, they aren't, or shouldn't be at least.

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2007, 01:03:55 PM »
"Everything I know about anonymous proxies tells me that levels don't mean anything."

Not true because I happen to know that in some instances a level 5 can spill your IP so I don't know why in the hell I said that.  This more than anything else had to be Anheuser-Busch speaking because it sure as hell wasn't me.

You can't even get this correct, because actually even a level 1 can spill your IP.

As I said previously, you really should just keep quiet now because the more you post, the worse you make things for yourself. 
I tell it like it is and that's offensive to those professing knowledge they don't have.

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2007, 01:30:56 PM »
That's a rumor I've heard here and there but I've seen conflicting opinions about it.  Until someone shows me a level 1 that spills I'm not going to take it as fact.  You got one handy?  I have personally seen low levels ones spill but most of them don't.

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2007, 02:50:49 PM »
OK, your assertion that a level 1 proxy can spill one's IP peaked my interest enough so that I went searching for information.  I didn't find a whole lot as I didn't dedicate an enormous amount of time to it but I did find this:

"I have to disagree with you BG. I went through PJ 2.35 source code long ago, but as far as I remember, an anon 1 / 2 proxy CANNOT spill your ip. The definitions of 1&2 maybe bullshit, as is the case with how 3,4,5 levels are assigned, but this is a fact imho."

-SilverSandStorm

hxxp://www.deny.de/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1776&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=proxy&start=10


I find him to be a very trustworthy source of information.  Granted, he said that more than 5 years ago as the post is from early 2002.  I admit that I don't know if he has changed his mind about it since then.  The interesting thing is that it is from a thread that you started and replied in several times, ironically enough.  So I know you've had to of seen this quote before.  And since you have then I take it that you disagree with him or are going on newer information.  I've personally not seen the issue resolved.  I've seen credible people from both sides of the fence argue for and against it.  But really, if you know for absolutely certain that a level 1 proxy can spill one’s IP I am genuinely interested in that because the issue remains unresolved for me.  If it's been confirmed 100% then it is information I missed.  But in my own personal experience I haven't yet witnessed one spill ( But it’s not like I go checking all the time either. ).

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2007, 05:43:21 AM »
For what it is worth, SilverSandStorm did changed his position on this matter in a later posting at SBZ.  Of course that documentation has long since been destroyed.  However, some might recall the discussion  (Slayer, Rhino, Jobbe, Sniperone, Geecko, other oldtimers).  The fact remains, whether you choose to believe it or not, the possibility exists that any proxy, regardless of level rating, can spill your IP on occasion.
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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2007, 07:34:03 AM »
Well, I'll go ahead and take your word on it then.  I wish I hadn't of missed that discussion though.  It's really terrible that Securibox isn't around anymore. :(

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Re: Why is so much made about proxy levels here?
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2007, 08:39:30 AM »
Wow, speaking of securibox not being around anymore I just found out that deny.de has closed down.  I didn't know that was even being considered.  What a shame.

 

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