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tybomb

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What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« on: March 24, 2008, 11:14:57 AM »
  I'm sick of hunting for proxies that die quickly and I can't even be bothered trying to find proxies I can use in irc because there just arent any anymore. I also use tons of other programs and it's just too much trouble trying to stay anonymous. My question is what can I do now that I'm at my wits end? What do "serious" people do when they want to insure that they're always anonymous without spending half there time hunting for proxies and getting them to work properly?   I'm willing to pay if thats what it calls for but if I'm paying a company for a proxy server then how anynymous is that? Wont they have records of everything I do just like an ISP would? Also, I dont want to get a paid proxy server and then as soon as I go to use IRC or a messenger program it wont work. And I also don't want it to slow down my computer to a halt.

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 01:23:01 PM »
No one is ever 100% anonymous!  So, forget that idea.  Sounds like you are seeking utopia, but that isn't possible either.

What do you do (legal and illegal) that you are so paranoid? 
I tell it like it is and that's offensive to those professing knowledge they don't have.

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 04:17:20 PM »
Posting "what I do legal and illegal" on a public message board isn't exactly a great first step towards better security.   However, nothing all that serious.  A certain amount of paranoia is something everyone should have.  I don't like the fact that everything I do is logged, I don't like the fact that google probably knows more about me then my best friends, I don't like that everyone can see my ip in irc or most other chat programs easily. I know complete anonymity is impossible and that a simple trojan can ruin even the most paranoid security measures but it would be nice to have basic anonymity in everything I do on the internet, at least from anyone that doesn't have a warrant. 

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 05:10:14 PM »
The point IS as stated previously, no one is ever 100% anonymous.

If you are doing something illegal, and it is serious enough for the authorities to come after you, it won't matter what measures you've taken ... they will find you.  If you are visiting porn sites, who cares (with or without a proxy)?  Perhaps you put too much importance of those things.  If Google knows more about you than your friends, you must be a very lonely person without much of a life.

If you are just an average Joe attempting to crack porn sites with or without the use of a proxy, do you really think the authorities care about this?  Law enforcement is a business and just like every other business there needs to be sufficient reason to make an expenditure of time, money and manpower.

If you protect your computer as well as you reasonably can, trojans/viruses shouldn't be a problem either.  Just take all the other necessary steps to eliminate potential problems, steps you've undoubtedly read about until you're blue in the face, and I won't bore you by repeating here.

There are, in fact, plenty of good proxies available today that can provide you with "basic anonymity".  You just need to be willing to put forth an effort to learn where and how to find them, how to properly test them, and when and where to use them.

I tell it like it is and that's offensive to those professing knowledge they don't have.

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2008, 11:06:00 AM »
   I don't want to get in to a big debate about weather or not I need the anonymity or if I have a life. The original question was and remains how can I stay anonymous on the internet with every application without spending a lot of time hunting for and testing proxies. 

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2008, 10:24:51 PM »
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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 07:37:24 AM »
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My question is what can I do now that I'm at my wits end? What do "serious" people do when they want to insure that they're always anonymous without spending half there time hunting for proxies and getting them to work properly?

Look, it's nobody's business why you need privacy. You can be as paranoid (or not) or protective of your privacy as you like. That's your business. I will agree with Katmando that there is no such thing as "absolute" permanent privacy. He's right. But you can protect yourself for those times that you need to more effectively than you have been. There are some websites that are for people interested in learning the basics. Go to:
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http://www.ultimate-anonymity.com
and open an inexpensive account (it's a one-time fee of under $20.00 last time I checked). They'll offer numerous alternatives. I use "Vidalia Bundle" (google it) which combines "Privoxy" and "Tor". (just visit the Vidalia website). It's not great but then, I don't want privacy "all the time". I'll use it when I visit websites or conduct research where I personally feel the need for spot-protection. Katmando makes a valid point that in-general, you don't want to live your life in fear. The NSA, law-enforcement, whatever, have bigger fish to fry than people at home surfing the web. But that being said, it's your right to be concerned about anybody, for whatever reason, tracking your business. Good luck

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 10:14:26 AM »
Even what you suggest doesn't add more security or privacy in reality.  You need to do more reading.  And, as I said before, someone always knows who you are and what you are up to.  So the question IS, who do you trust more with the information you post and the sites you visit?

I tell it like it is and that's offensive to those professing knowledge they don't have.

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 01:23:23 PM »
   I'm not here to spam a product! This seemed like the logical place to post a question about anonimity. The reason I brought up the "other" idea was because I posted the same question on another forum and it was one of the suggestions. Now I'm sure your chomping at the bit to post a snotty reply about how I shouldn't be posting the same question on more then one forum so let me clear that up right now. I posted here first and saw your reply contained no usefull information so I looked up your post history and realised that your only reason for replying to questions on this forum seems to be to berate people for whatever reason you can find. If you don't find sufficient reason to give a snotty reply then it seems you go fishing for reasons to do so.  For example, in this thread you actually pretend I'm asking for 100% anonimity just so you have something to gripe about.  In my second freakin' post I make it quite clear I know 100% anonimity is impossible and I don't expect that.  So far you've posted 3 times in this thread and managed to sidestep my question every time just so you could continue to post your ignorant replies.
  My suggestion to you is to stop replying to newbie questions until you get your perscription refilled.
 And I've been trying the "other" method since the day it was suggested and so far I can't say I'm all that happy with it since it's been hard to connect and I've read so many complaints about this on other forums.  Now I'm looking at the paid proxy list idea since it was also suggested on the other forum.

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Re: What can I do to get REAL anonimity?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 01:56:41 PM »
The brief answer to your question is NO there is no better way really.  If you want anonymity (note correct spelling of the word), you have to put forth the time and effort.  There are no easy methods to it. You need to know where and how to find good anonymous proxies, and of course you also need to know how to test them. There are time when you can probably use web based proxies, depending on what you're doing.
I tell it like it is and that's offensive to those professing knowledge they don't have.

 

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