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rugenyes

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A question
« on: January 14, 2008, 04:24:55 PM »
When I download the proxy leech list for FPL and grab the proxies to check, I do not get as many as shown on the daily update of proxies.

Today when I download all the proxies from the list I get 23659 unique proxies of which 127 are anonymous - L1, L2 or L3.

Yet the daily update give has 72196 unique proxies and 4819 anonymous proxies.

Why the difference.

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Re: A question
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2008, 06:55:15 PM »
4819 anonymous proxies?  Get real.
I tell it like it is and that's offensive to those professing knowledge they don't have.

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Re: A question
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2008, 09:28:03 PM »
Please read the detailed report:
http://fpl.my-proxy.com/liststat.php

We just add up the number of all the leech links.
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Re: A question
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2008, 12:02:38 AM »
Well golly gee Terry, "we just add up the number of all the leech links" would appear to mean that it does not take into account the tremendous number of Planetlab/CoDeeN proxies included, nor would the high percentage of duplication of proxies within that total.

That's very misleading for those who people don't think!
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Re: A question
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2008, 08:41:50 AM »
Let analyze the site producing the most so-called anonymous proxies for today (01-15-08) hxxp://www.proxysecurity.com/proxy-list.php|txt|0:

Total proxies:  3488

Total anonymous (L1 & L2): 204

Transparent (L3): 15

Time-outs: 3269  (means anything Bleach can make a connection with)


Of the so-called 204 anonymous proxies, 146 are Planetlab/CoDeeN (considered worthless by most) and due to the invalid ports (68660 & 68664) there is duplication once these are converted to 16-bit:

128.10.19.53:3128
128.112.139.71:3127
128.112.139.71:3128
128.112.139.71:68660
128.112.139.73:3124
128.112.139.78:3127
128.112.139.82:68660
128.112.139.96:3128
128.114.63.14:3127
128.114.63.15:3128
128.114.63.15:68660
128.135.11.149:68660
128.135.11.152:3124
128.163.142.20:3128
128.2.223.65:3124
128.208.4.197:3127
128.208.4.197:3128
128.208.4.198:3127
128.208.4.99:3127
128.208.4.99:3128
128.208.4.99:68660
128.220.231.2:3127
128.220.231.2:3128
128.223.8.111:3124
128.223.8.112:3124
128.223.8.112:3127
128.227.56.82:68660
128.232.103.201:3124
128.232.103.203:3124
128.232.103.203:3128
128.31.1.11:68660
128.31.1.16:3128
128.31.1.17:3124
129.107.35.132:3127
129.108.202.10:3127
129.108.202.11:3127
129.130.252.138:3128
129.170.214.191:3127
129.170.214.191:3128
129.170.214.192:3128
129.186.205.77:3124
129.240.67.16:3124
129.240.67.16:3128
129.240.67.18:3124
129.242.19.196:3127
129.242.19.196:3128
129.242.19.197:3124
129.242.19.197:3128
130.161.40.154:3124
130.49.221.40:3127
130.49.221.40:3128
130.92.70.252:3124
130.92.70.252:3128
130.92.70.252:68664
131.188.44.100:3128
132.252.152.193:3124
132.252.152.193:3128
132.252.152.193:68664
133.11.240.57:3124
136.145.115.194:3128
137.226.138.154:3124
137.226.138.154:3128
137.226.138.156:3128
138.100.12.149:3124
138.100.12.149:3128
138.100.12.149:68664
138.23.204.232:3124
140.247.60.126:3128
141.24.249.129:3124
141.24.249.129:3127
141.24.249.130:3127
141.24.33.161:3128
141.24.33.192:3124
141.76.45.17:3128
141.76.45.17:68664
142.150.238.13:3128
143.205.172.11:3127
143.205.172.11:3128
143.205.172.11:68664
143.205.172.12:3127
143.205.172.12:3128
143.205.172.12:68664
143.225.229.236:3124
143.225.229.236:68664
144.216.2.53:3124
144.216.2.53:3128
150.165.15.19:3124
150.165.15.19:3128
150.65.32.66:3128
155.98.35.2:3124
156.17.10.51:3127
158.130.6.253:3124
158.130.6.253:3128
163.221.11.71:3127
163.221.11.72:3124
165.230.49.114:3128
165.91.83.22:3128
169.229.50.10:3127
169.229.50.10:3128
169.229.50.13:3124
169.229.50.13:3127
169.229.50.14:3128
169.229.50.16:3128
169.229.50.4:3128
169.229.50.5:3128
169.229.50.5:68660
169.229.50.7:3127
169.229.50.7:3128
169.229.50.8:3128
171.66.3.182:3127
189.19.62.103:6588
192.197.121.2:3124
192.33.90.66:3128
192.33.90.67:3124
192.41.135.219:3128
192.42.43.22:3127
192.42.43.23:3128
193.136.227.163:3127
193.167.182.132:3124
193.167.182.132:3128
193.167.187.187:3124
193.167.187.188:3124
193.167.187.188:3127
193.231.17.37:8080
193.251.181.135:8080
193.6.20.5:3127
194.36.10.154:3124
194.36.10.154:3127
194.36.10.156:3127
194.36.10.156:3128
195.113.161.83:3128
195.113.161.83:68664
195.116.60.1:3124
195.116.60.1:3127
195.130.121.204:3124
195.130.121.204:3127
195.130.121.204:68664
195.130.121.205:3127
195.130.121.205:3128
200.158.80.109:6588
200.171.139.199:6588
200.242.197.130:8080
200.34.33.100:80
200.42.216.32:6588
200.67.31.246:3128
200.78.117.239:3128
200.78.121.244:3128
200.88.114.166:80
201.0.135.56:6588
201.36.165.50:6588
202.115.130.23:8080
202.134.73.55:80
202.70.242.203:80
202.88.214.213:6588
202.99.204.66:3128
203.178.133.10:3128
203.178.133.2:3127
203.178.133.2:3128
203.178.133.3:3124
203.178.133.3:3128
203.180.79.64:8080
203.88.192.104:8080
206.117.37.4:3127
206.117.37.5:3124
206.117.37.5:3127
206.12.16.133:3127
206.12.16.133:3128
209.10.233.172:8080
209.135.152.62:8000
210.143.23.65:8080
210.22.158.132:8080
211.142.116.205:8080
212.92.169.186:3128
213.137.130.166:8080
216.114.194.19:6588
218.182.144.111:8080
218.249.83.87:8080
218.7.13.186:80
219.35.202.154:8080
220.1.172.79:8080
220.22.36.146:8080
220.247.234.141:8080
220.41.220.191:8080
220.47.32.108:8080
221.115.163.123:80
221.94.2.50:8080
222.128.19.25:10368
222.221.6.144:808
24.180.245.210:8000
59.14.174.100:8080
59.166.114.139:8080
61.178.11.70:808
61.26.157.55:8080
63.134.253.102:80
64.184.84.246:80
66.16.224.79:7212
72.249.77.9:80
74.41.223.86:80
74.92.242.25:80
75.82.204.246:3128
76.24.14.232:7212
82.87.36.78:8080
85.21.125.100:8080
85.28.128.234:8080

This leaves 58 truly anonymous proxies, or are they?  I am very suspect of Bleach's ability to actually determine an anonymous proxy because when immediately running these through other more reliable checkers (Charon & AATools) only half of these tested to be working.
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Re: A question
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 12:51:05 PM »
The stats given for the proxy leech sites for FPL are misleading.

I download all the leeched proxies approx 72000 go 34000 unique proxies.  Ran them through Charon and got 64 anonymous (L1 and L2) proxies.  A lot of hard work for not a lot of reward.

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Re: A question
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 01:33:46 PM »
Why are you always a day late and a dollar short rugenyes.  Didn't you read what has been stated above?

No one cares what your results are, because few people here believe them one way or the other.  Who cares about generalized stats anyway, the only thing that matters is what your individual results are.

But, if you were honest, even your so-called results are flawed.  Lets look at the most obvious oversights and gross exaggerations on your part:

1).  You aren't taking into account all the Planetlab/CoDeeN proxies that FPL reports as high anonymous, and that you most likely filtered out with Charon ... thereby greatly reducing the proxies actually tested.

2).  It would take Charon at least a week to test 34,000 proxies properly, and when you were done those that were reported anonymous in the beginning would already be dead.

3). Charon doesn't rate proxies as "L1 and L2".
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Re: A question
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 05:01:07 PM »
I used 12 random proxies from Katmandos list (given as anonymous by Bleach) to surf the proxy judge I used to test them and every one spilled my ip address.

So conclusion Bleach is totally flawed.

 

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